Bill Clo
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khurios2000 (514)
Tried to Buy Q6600 but Bill Backout for some reason.
Bill Clo was the Seller on June 5, 2008 AnandTech
This is the weirdest transaction I\'ve ever had. Bill is not very friendly in term communication and understanding. The transaction was canceled by Bill after i asked him to continue the purchased.
bottom line: the transaction was never happened, this is a type of transaction that the seller back out the deal.
for future buyer that looking to see if it is worth to trade w/ Bill, the answer is no.
first because he not good in communication, the second his patience was razor thin or i can say no patience at all.
proceed with your own risk dealing w/ this guy, because he might give you a negative for something that never happen.
very immature and unprofessional trader here folks.
he will back out the deal if you ask him lots of questions, and might give a negative evaluation for transaction that never exist.
Response from Bill CloI am now posting the text of our conversations, and let the viewer decide what was going on...
Note 14 days between beginning and end of discussions.
05/23/2008 10:28 AM
BillClo: I\'ve gopt 2 Q6600s (one is sold, but payment hasn\'t arrived and the buyer isn\'t concerned about batch #, etc. You could pick which one you wanted.
1) L721A814
2) L727A934
khurios2000: Hi BillClo,
Does your Q6600 retail or OEM?
how much for the L727A964?
Bill Clo:
They are both OEM, no heatsink or fan. I DO have the heatsinks I was using (one Scythe Ninja still available) though.
I\'d like to get $190 for it if I could; got new baby bills coming up in a few weeks.
3 days later...
Bill Clo So have you decided if you want that Q6600 I was offering?
Bill
khurios2000: not decided yet, im trying to sell my Quad 45nm first.
thanks
Bill,
khurios2000:i was just wondering if the cpu oem pulled from dell/hp machine?
thanks
Bill Clo
No, I bought it OEM to put in a Folding at Home machine. Got it from ClubIT when they were selling OEM CPUs for less than retail.
khurios2000: any discount for your fellow folder here :D
khurios2000:ill send $180
what kind of payment method you like?
thanks
ps: you dont do paypal or google checkout, dont you?
Bill Clo:
No, I don\'t do Paypal; if you\'ll re-read the ad, it says so. They screwed me over big-time, held my money for 180 days on a whim, and really stuck it to me. No way will I ever deal with them again.
Check that won\'t bounce or a postal money order are fine for payment.
Thanks
Bill
khurios2000: Hi Bill
How about if i Western Union transfer the money?
Bill,
Are you interested in cross shipment?
i really appreciate it if you can do that...
i did sent the payment in the mail last week, prolly today or tommorow you\'ll get it.
btw heres my heatware:
http://heatware.com/eval.php?id=23153
regards,
Jamie
Bill Clo:
I\'ll be checking my mail in town this AM, so I could cross ship. I don\'t get why you\'d mail payment, and then want to send Western Union payment as well. I guess in that case I could have returned your initial payment, though.
Bill
khurios2000: well, if you could do WU,
ill call my bank to cancel the check...
but either way, i just want to speed up the shipping process
Bill Clo:
I just got back from being out all day. I\'ll call Giant tomorrow morning and inquire how the WU process goes, as it\'d be faster for sure.
I could then mail you back your check if you want and ship tomorrow once I picked up the money.
Bill
khurios2000: got my check in the mail today?
Bill Clo:
No, not yet. GOt back from out of town too late to mail it back. Wouldn\'t it have been easier and definitely faster to have sent a postal m/o? I could have shipped today (this AM when I checked mail originally) if you hadn\'t sent a check.
khurios2000: ill wait for check to clear out
Bill Clo:
I\'m depositing the check today and will let you know when it clears and I\'m shipping.
khurios2000: hi
any update on my q6600 shipment?
thanks 06/03/2008 11:09 PM
Bill Clo:
I deposited your check yesterday, and now waiting for it to clear, per my original ad\'s specification. I never ship til a check clears because if it bounces, I have basically zero recourse.
Bill,
khurios2000:i dont want the cpu anymore,
picked up from ebay this morning.
sorry about that.
can you refund my money?
just send me a check if you would please
Jamie 06/04/2008 09:06 AM
Bill Clo:
Dude, what in the heck is wrong with you? You say you need the CPU ASAP, and then you send a check, which will require you to wait til it clears. Before it arrives you suddenly want to use Western Union to speed things up. Then the check gets here and you want me to ship before the check clears despite my ad saying very specifically you\'d have to wait til it cleared. Then when you find out that I am indeed honoring my end of the bargain and making you wait til it clears, you decide to welch out?
I\'ll send your money back ONCE THE CHECK CLEARS, and not before. I find I can\'t trust you anymore, as your behavior has become quite erratic. I will also leave appropriate heatware and other feedback.
khurios2000: so you did you already ship it out? 06/04/2008 05:45 PM
Bill Clo:
Ship what out, the money from the check I deposited that hasn\'t cleared yet, or the CPU?
khurios2000: i still can use another quad core,
if you still want to ship it out.
i want no problem here,
it frustrate me how this transaction going for almost 2 weeks.
btw my check is good.
06/04/2008 05:51 PM
khurios2000: question for you...
why you not just cash the check at your bank, thats faster...
06/04/2008 05:53 PM
Bill Clo:
This whole transaction has gotten pretty surreal. For someone who wants the CPU quickly, you chose the way that\'ll make you wait the longest. The fact of the matter is you\'re acting like someone who\'s trying to pull a fast one with me, and it makes me nervous. Maybe you are, probably you aren\'t. But I cannot accept the risk that your check is good and ship a $170 CPU before it clears.
Look at it from my perspective. Guy says he wants CPU fast, sends a check and expects you to ship immediately. You don\'t want to risk it, having been ripped off before, and deposit the check, waiting til it clears so you don\'t get ripped off again. Guy then says he doesn\'t want the CPU because you\'re making him wait. Then he changes his mind again, saying he can still use it, and why don\'t you ship now?
It\'s not a matter of depositing the check and waiting for it to clear versus cashing it being faster. It\'s a matter of my taking a big risk that the check is okay. If I cash it, and it bounces later, the bank is going to take the money out of my acct, and I risk that forcing one of my checks to bounce because I didn\'t know the first check bounced.
I can still ship the CPU if you still want it, but you still have to wait til the check clears. Or if you don\'t want it anymore, fine, but you still have to wait til it clears to get the refund. I WILL refund you in this case.
khurios2000: i understand your stand point,
i was pm-ing this morning just in case you havent deposited the check.
its weird since most bank will cash the check at 12.00AM the same day, so if you did put the check in the bank yesterday, by now you already have it in your account.
im sorry if i made you upset,
please send the cpu to my address, if you would.
thanks and have great day
Bill Clo:
After having thought the matter over some more, I\'m just going to refund your money once the check clears, and walk away from this deal. It\'s gotten too wierd for me. I\'ll let you know when I ship your money back via Certified Mail.
Bill
06/05/2008 08:43 PM
khurios2000: okey whatever works with you,
as i said before im sorry.
hope you dont hold your grudge against me
regards
Jamie
Bill Clo:
No grudge involved. It\'s what should have been a simple business transaction that went into the Twilight Zone. Business, nothing personal at all.
Bill Clo:
I mailed back your money today. $180 Postal Money order via USPS Certified mail.
Bill 06/11/2008 06:29 PM
June 20, 2008
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mokcl (4)
Intel Heatsink for Pentium D
Bill Clo was the Seller on January 25, 2007 HardForum
Item received as described Hope to do business again. Thanks
January 26, 2007
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curtcheese64 (17)
Bought a socket A MSI motherboard.
Bill Clo was the Seller on February 1, 2007 HardForum
I had some problems with the motherboard and he worked very hard to help me resolve them. I would definitely deal with him again.
February 4, 2007
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artless1 (89)
Bought Intel Q6600 SLACR Processor
Bill Clo was the Seller on August 11, 2008 HardForum
Shipped CPU in timely manner, arrived in great shape, good communication throughout, would definitely deal with again, very happy. Thanks again!
August 12, 2008
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scoob8000 (118)
Bought a Biostar S754 Mobo on the H
Bill Clo was the Seller on April 2, 2008 HardForum
Shipped the board before I paid. We actually cross shipped board and money order. :)
Trustworthy seller, mobo got here the very next day, very well packaged too.
Would definitely do business again one day!April 3, 2008
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cuti7399 (339)
bought a synthe ninja heatsink and fan
Bill Clo was the Seller on June 30, 2008 AnandTech
item came as promised. the clips are bent but works, would deal again
July 1, 2008
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sisq0kidd (430)
Bought AMD 3500+ processor w/ heatsink
Bill Clo was the Seller on August 19, 2006 AnandTech
Great person to deal with. Bill shipped first because of his low heat, but he handled this transaction perfectly.
Great communication, fast shipping, excellent packaging, nothing more I can ask for.August 20, 2006
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PsychoCrazy (14)
MSI K8N Neo Platinum s754 motherboard.
Bill Clo was the Seller on January 6, 2007 AnandTech
Item arrived exactly as described. Working fine. Would definitely buy from again. Thanks!!
February 12, 2007
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Inspector Jihad (7)
i bought two pc3200 memory sticks.
Bill Clo was the Seller on August 25, 2007 AnandTech
Shipped as soon as he received the money. great guy, will trade with again.
August 27, 2007
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WARDOZER9 (110)
Purchased 2x X1900XTX Pci-E cards
Bill Clo was the Seller on May 8, 2008 AnandTech
I purchaesed 2x BBA 512mb X1900XTX Pci-E video cards from Bill. Both cards worked flawlessly and both seemed to have the very good max OC of 715/1728 with stock cooling/voltage :)
This deal went very smoothly and communication was very well maintained throughout the entire trade which is a big plus.
Seeing as Bill did ship first this isn\'t that big of an issues as I could have returned the card if need be but one card arrived wrapped in aluminum foil which has electrically conductive properties :( Luckily the card arrived unharmed though.
Other than the one snafu in the packaging department the trade was well conducted and I can honestly say I\'d trade with Bill again in the future.May 17, 2008
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daos (56)
BBA ATI x1900XTX GPU PCIe
Bill Clo was the Buyer on January 10, 2007 HardForum
Sold to Bill on HardOCP. Good communication and fast payment. Would definatly do business with again.
January 11, 2007
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henry_nettles (386)
I purchased an Antec True 430 power supply from this gentleman.
Bill Clo was the Seller on January 20, 2007 AnandTech
Deal went very smoothly. I would be happy to do business with him again.
February 15, 2007
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piscian18 (92)
I purchased a BGF 6800U from him
Bill Clo was the Seller on August 14, 2008 AnandTech
Great deal good seller very easy to deal with. Would buy from again.
September 2, 2008
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nasty^2 (93)
Bought an MSI K8N Neo 2, 2GB DDR & 3800+ X2
Bill Clo was the Seller on July 29, 2008 AnandTech
Couldn\'t be happier with the transaction. Great price, good shipping, good communication, all around a pleasant experience.
July 30, 2008
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dragonslayer45895 (108)
I bought a Radeon 9800 PRO
Bill Clo was the Seller on March 11, 2007 HardForum
very nice seller, item was well packaged and shipped very fast, Very recommended seller, and i hope to do business with him again.
March 12, 2007
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Cutter (39)
xp 2700 and 512 memory
Bill Clo was the Seller on January 23, 2007 HardForum
packed very well, he even sent me a decent heatsink with it. great guy would do it all over again if given the chance.
January 24, 2007
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xylem (66)
two Antec True550 power supplies
Bill Clo was the Seller on September 4, 2007 AnandTech
Good packaging, and the two units work well. I would trade with Bill Clo again.
September 5, 2007
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GabbyCatt (304)
I purchased an AMD X2 3800 CPU
Bill Clo was the Seller on September 13, 2007 AnandTech
Seller shipped first, very pleasant to deal with. Shipping was fast and prompt. Great trader here and I\'m looking forward to more deals.
Highly RecommendedSeptember 14, 2007
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cghebert (3)
Bought an AMD CPU.
Bill Clo was the Seller on September 25, 2007 AnandTech
Smooth transaction. Good communication, fast shipping, and item was very well packed. Would do business with again.
September 26, 2007
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karaktu (2236)
e6300 Retail
Bill Clo was the Seller on October 12, 2007 AnandTech
Great communication, quick shipping (shipped first) and a totally smooth deal. Thanks much! :)
October 14, 2007
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sttubs (305)
Purchased S754 3200 w/HSF & Antec 420w PSU
Bill Clo was the Seller on April 10, 2008 HardForum
Smooth transaction, packaged well, quick to respond to PM\'s, would not hesitate to do business with again
April 11, 2008
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henry_nettles (386)
I purchased an Antec True430 power supply from this gentleman.
Bill Clo was the Seller on January 20, 2007 AnandTech
Bill graciously agreed to ship first. The power supply was well packed, arrived on time, and was in good condition. I would be very happy to do business with him again.
January 21, 2007
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bryceejones (151)
Sold him a socket 939 processor
Bill Clo was the Buyer on August 23, 2007 HardForum
nice smooth transition he paid via money order and sent the money order quickly. I would deal with him again in the future.
August 26, 2007
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WhiteWashed104 (124)
bought 2 x 1 GB sticks of Corsair DDR2 Memory
Bill Clo was the Seller on June 9, 2008 HardForum
Seller shipped fast, kept in contact, and was very easy to deal with. would definitly do business with again :)
June 10, 2008
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GWenglishx (23)
MSI K8N Neo 4
Bill Clo was the Seller on April 17, 2008 HardForum
Good seller and a very nice guy. We had a problem with my payment getting semi-lost in the mail and he handled the situation appropriately. Would buy from him again.
April 18, 2008